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Location:

London,UK

Member Since:

Jan 02, 2006

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Collegiate: 100m - 13.2 (1985) 200m - 27.0 (indoors, 1989) 400m - 62.3 (indoors, 1989) Post-Collegiate: 5K - 21:37 (1998) 5mi - 35:15 (1998) 10K - 45:04 (1998) 15K - 1:11:36 (2006) 20K - 1:35:34 (2006) Half - 1:42:03 (2007) Marathon - 3:37:04 (Cal International, 2000)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Get my weekly mileage in the 35-40 range.

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

I guess at this point I just want to keep running for fitness and weight control.

Personal:

I was born in Moscow, Russia in '68, where I started running sprint events in '83. I moved to the US (NYC area) in '91 and didn't run again till '96 when I discovered road racing scene. I was hooked after my first 5K race. I had another break in running from '01-'04 and decided to seriously get back into it in August of '05. I'm married and have 16 year old daughter. I have moved to London in August '06, will probably stay here for a few years.

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Race: Marrow Fun Run 8K (5.18 Miles) 00:38:07
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.300.002.402.800.000.000.0012.50

In a few words, I'm very disappointed. I thought that the last 6 or so weeks of consistent marathon training and higher mileage raised my fitness across the board, and I should be able to have a good race. But it was not to be. I didn't take any days off this week, because I wanted to keep consistent mileage. Maybe it was a mistake and I should have taken Friday off. Most runs were easy, but I didn't really feel fresh and didn't have a spring in my step. Maybe I haven't fully recovered from my 8x800m workout. On top of that, yesterday, after I ran easy 4 miles, we decided to go explore south London and promptly got lost. We then ended up walking a good 2 hours through not so nice parts of London until we got to some civilization again. My feet were pretty tired, but I have no idea if it played any role today. It's most likely an excuse I'm trying to use to explain my lousy performance today.

So, here is how it played out today. I got to the race, ran my warmup and noticed I was pretty slow, around 9:30 pace on the warmup. Then, I felt better doing strides. The race was extremely low key, no race clock even! They started 18 minutes later than announced, so I kept jogging and doing light strides to keep warm (it wasn't too cold, but pretty windy, and I wished I wore gloves). After some standing around on the start line, they finally let us go. The first kilometer was up a slight incline and into some wind, but I was still unhappy to see Garmin showing around 7:25-7:29 pace. It didn't feel easy, so I wasn't pushing it any more. At 1 km mark I hit the lap button and got 4:23. Here comes another twist with this race - all the markers were off. So, the accurate split is this:
 
1km - 0.58mi - 4:23 (7:30 pace).
 
After that, it's gotten totally flat or even a bit downhill sometimes, and I seemed to have settled into a nice rhythm. Garmin read 7:11-7:15 on this stretch. I thought this is a true pace I should be able to sustain with all the training I'm doing now. So I went for it.  No further markers till 4km.
 
4km - 1.80mi - 13:01 (7:14 pace).
At this point it became painfully (literally) clear that maintaining 7:15 pace was wishful thinking. I went anaerobic and had to slow down a lot, feeling pretty disgusted with myself. Also, running at a slight incline now which is not helping. The next marker was 5km, again it was short:
 
5km - 0.51mi - 3:51 (7:33 pace).
 
The next 2 km's or so, I was just suffering in survival mode. Next marker was 7km, this time it was too long.
 
7km - 1.36mi - 10:12 (7:31 pace).
 
At this point, I guess I recovered somewhat, and figuring it was the last km, I started pushing the pace again. There was also some slight downhill which helped. But this km was very long, it was in fact almost a mile!! I don't know how they measured the course (but it's not a certified course, so can't really complain). I finally saw the finish line about 200m away and put some kick in - I actually had something left in the tank, after all this!
 
8km - 0.93mi - 6:38 (7:11 pace).
Looked at the Garmin time (remember, no race clock!) - it read 38:07. I thought, no way I ran THIS slow. Flipped the mode to history, and sure enough, the course was 5.18mi. long. So, it means 7:22 average pace. This is bad, even worse than equivalent performance based on my 5K in November. I should have been able to at least maintain 7:19 pace, but I slipped below even that. I'm wondering, where is the fitness with all the hard work I'm putting in?? Why is my LT so low? I thought I was doing well, and training was going fine, and here is this dismal result. I heard that people don't generally run well shorter distances while marathon training, but I expected better. I hoped my fitness would be up a notch from November. This result doesn't give me much confidence for a half marathon in 2 weeks :(.

Comments
From Nick on Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 23:32:49

Hey Maria,

Don't even feel bad. Racing is a very hard thing to become good at, and performing well is very tough. When I ran the CU time trial this last year, lets just say that it was a trainwreck. I felt the exact same as you, prepared and ready to race, but when it came to crunch time I fumbled big time. That race crushed my confidence, and I was wondering what was next to come, if anything. I think that the key is to not let a particular race get the better of you. I think that one of the best quotes that I have been told is:

"You win, game over, end of story. You lose and the real game begins" (or something very similar to that). You should look at this race as an opportunity to grow in the overall picture. The challenge is to win the war; particular battles can be lost if the overall outcome ends up the way you want. Keep your head up! Your training and running ability will "pull" you through hard times! :)

From Tam Hoang on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 14:01:28

McMillan race predictor said to run a 3:35:00 Marathon one will need to run a 10K at 7:22" pace and 13.1 miles at 7:47" pace.

On a windy day and you were not even at your best you still ran 5.18 miles at 7:22" pace! I said it was fanstatic run. I believe 4 miles run plus 2 hours of walking is more than 10 miles! Not counting all the stress of being lost and dehydrated.

From Tam Hoang on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 14:04:29

McMillan race predictor said to run a 3:35:00 Marathon one will need to run a 10K at 7:22" pace and 13.1 miles at 7:47" pace.

On a windy day and you were not even at your best you still ran 5.18 miles at 7:22" pace! I said it was fanstatic run. I believe 4 miles run plus 2 hours of walking is more than 10 miles! Not counting all the stress of being lost and dehydrated.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 14:05:55

Maria:

There are several factors here. First, you trained through it. When you do that, you lose a little bit of an edge. Second, the course was hilly and there was some headwind involved. With those two combined you could have very slow times. Last year, I ran a half marathon on a net downhill(!) course in 1:15:58. I should have run it in at least 1:12, but there was a huge headwind to begin with, and to make things worse, I ended up in no man's land for most of the race. Another time I ran 16:51 5 K on the track (when I should have run at least 16:10) - again the same story, headwind, no man's land. A week later I ran 2:30:03 marathon in Ogden. And just now I raced a 10 K on a hilly course in 36:08. This could be interpreted as a indicator of a huge fitness loss if the variables affecting the performance are not properly considered. Fortunately, other people whose performance stability I trust were there, and the data from everybody, including their splits compared to mine, tells me what that performance means (I do not do well on prolonged steep climbs relative to my competition, but otherwise my fitness is just fine).

So I would not put too much weight on this performance - who knows what effect the hills and the headwind had, who knows if 5.18 on Garmin might have been another 0.1 of a mile short of the actual distance. Also, when something throws you off during a race, such as misplaced markers, you may lose concentration, and competitive edge along with it. This could cost you as much as 30 seconds or even a minute in an 8 K.

To know my fitness, I use a set of standard courses where I always run my hard tempos. I think something like this works very well - by now, I can predict my time in any big race in Utah, given normal conditions, based on what is happening in my standard tempos.

From Maria on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 16:12:54

Thanks everyone for the comments!

Sasha, to be fair, this was definitely not a hilly course. The race was in Hyde Park, which is almost completely flat. Part of the course overlapped with the course I ran 5K on in November (that's why I'm comparing them). I'm using the word "incline", there are few inclines both up and down, but no more than 1-1.5% grade. It's enough to feel it, but nothing compared to real uphills, especially like the ones you just ran in your 10K. What IS true though, that it was fairly windy, and I was running alone majority of the race because there were maybe only 100 runners and it was very spread out. So I had no one to draft behind and hide from the wind.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 16:59:10

If the wind was more than a slight breeze, this could slow you down by 10-20 seconds per mile, or sometimes even more. Last year in the Moab half-marathon I ran a mile in 6:45 into a gust putting it probably a 5:30-5:35 effort. Drafting in that race made a difference of about 15 seconds per mile when the wind was moderate. I was cruising at 5:50, then got passed and tucked behind the runner that passed me. With what seemed to be the same effort, I hit the next two miles on the same terrain in 5:33 and 5:34.

On a windy day the correct strategy is to go out with the fastest runner you can keep up for about half the race. Hang in there until you are ready to puke. Slow down and recover. Wait to get passed, then immediately get behind the passing runner. Repeat to the finish.

From Brent on Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 15:49:45

Maria: I had a similiar race for a 15K, no legs. I did much the same as you, no taper and only avg. 7:54. I think your race was probably better than you explained, given your training up to the race.

There is always another race. Keep on, training on.

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